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On the Fourth of July, America remembers its founding fathers, and legacy they left behind.

But as I found out speaking with Joseph Ellis, Independence Day is a bit of a misnomer. In fact, exactly when we should celebrate Independence Day is up for debate.

Ellis is one of the most respected historians on the Revolutionary War. He won the Pulitzer Prize for his book, “Founding Brothers,” and has recently published a new book called, “Revolutionary Summer: The Birth of American Independence.”

He spoke in June at the Louisville Free Public Library. Check out our conversation below: